“Jesus Tomb” controversy erupts—again
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Rarely does the world of Biblical archaeology make as much news as when filmmakers James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici announced at a press conference in late February 2007 that they had identified the remains of Jesus. Those remains, the two filmmakers claimed, had been in an ossuary, or bone box, inscribed “Jesus son of Joseph” that had been uncovered in 1980 during construction of an apartment building in the Jerusalem neighborhood of East Talpiot. As if that were not news enough, Cameron and Jacobovici further claimed that the tomb also contained the ossuaries of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and of Mary Magdalene. And if that weren’t enough, they went on to claim that another ossuary in the tomb, inscribed “Yehudah [Judah, or Judas in Greek] son of Jesus,” was the son of Jesus of Nazareth and of Mary Magdalene, who, the filmmakers said, were married. The Talpiot tomb, they concluded, was nothing less than the tomb of Jesus and his closest family.
Cameron and Jacobovici’s views were elaborated soon after the press conference in The Lost Tomb of Jesus, a program that aired on the Discovery Channel.
It did not take long for the criticism against the show’s claims to mount. Some of the criticism was personal and ugly, sometimes motivated by a misguided sense of defending Christianity. Much of the criticism, however, came from scholars who raised substantive objections to the program’s claims. Some quickly pointed out that the Talpiot tombñ cut into bedrock and containing niches for ossuariesñ was a type of tomb popular among Jerusalem’s wealthy in the first century.
Jesus’s family was not wealthy, these scholars noted, and would not have had such a family tomb. Several other criticisms were raised: Jesus’s family, coming from Galilee, would not have had a tomb in Jerusalem; if they had one at all, it would have been in their home region. The scholars also noted that the purported ossuary of Jesus is inscribed simply as “Jesus son of Joseph.” People from outside Judea, these scholars argued, would have been called by their city or region of originñ Mary of Magdala, Paul of Tarsus and, indeed, Jesus of Nazareth. Scholars also pointed out that Jesus, in the Gospels, is invariably called “Jesus of Nazareth” and not “Jesus son of Joseph,” which is how the Talpiot ossuary is inscribed.
Other objections included the fact that the Jesus ossuary contained no title, such as Master or Messiah, that we might expect Jesus’s earliest followers to have inscribed on the bone box of their revered teacher. Also missing was any history of veneration of the Talpiot tomb as the burial place of Jesus; the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, in contrast, was thought by early Christians to be the site of Jesus’ death and burial as far back as the second century.
None of the proceeding objections are by themselves strong enough to be fatal to the claim that the Talpiot tomb was the tomb of Jesus and his family. But note that every one of those objections has to be wrong for the claim to be rightñ even if one of those objections is correct, the Talpiot tomb is not the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth.
But, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that these objections are indeed all wrong. Even if we grant that Jesus’ family had a tomb in Jerusalem (and not in Galilee), that they could afford (and had a desire to own) a rock-cut family tomb of the type favored by Jerusalem’s wealthy, that Jesus’ ossuary would have been inscribed simply as “Jesus son of Joseph” (and not “Jesus of Nazareth” or with the title Master or Messiah), and that the early Christian community in Jerusalem not only would have forgotten where their leader had been buried but would later come up with an entirely spurious tradition that he was buried where the Holy Sepulchre would later be builtñ if we assume all that, how strong a case do the makers of The Lost Tomb of Jesus have? The answer is: a surprisingly weak one.
When the Talpiot tomb was discovered in 1980, the excavators found ten ossuaries inside; six were inscribed. In addition to the one inscribed “Jesus son of Joseph,” there were ossuaries inscribed “Mariamne Mara,” “Maria,” “Mattia,” “Judah son Jesus” and “Joseh.” The “Mariamne Mara” inscription is written in Greek letters; the others are in Hebrew/Aramaic.
The “Mariamne Mara” ossuary is key to the filmmakers’ argumentñ and it is the one over which their claims are particularly unconvincing. They argue that Mariamne, one of several Greek variations on the Hebrew name Miriam, refers to none other than Mary Magdalene (the name Mary, too, derives from Miriam). They point to the fourth-century apocryphal work the Acts of Philip, in which a woman named Mariamne plays a prominent role. The filmmakers, basing themselves on an interpretation by Francois Bovon, of Harvard Divinity School, argue that this Mariamne was thought by the author of the Acts of Philip to be Mary Magdalene.
There are several severe problems with this theory, however. The Mariamne in the Acts of Philip is not identified as Mary Magdalene and does not do any of the notable things Mary Magdalene does in the Gospels (for example, Mary Magdalene is healed by Jesus in Luke 8:8; is witness to Jesus’ place of burial in Mark 15:40-47; and is witness to the resurrection of Jesus in Mark 16:1-8). The Mariamne of the Acts of Philip also does numerous things for which we have no parallel in the Gospel accounts (such as converting talking animals and slaying a dragon!). Indeed, the Mariamne of the Acts of Philip is identified as the sister of Martha. So whatever we are to make of the Mariamne of the Acts of Philip, she is not Mary Magdalene.
But even if we accept Bovon’s theory that the Mariamne in the Acts of Philip was meant to be Mary Magdalene (and Bovon has recently stated that he does not think Mariamne is the real name of the historical Mary Magdalene), what bearing does a fourth-century work, composed far from Palestine (probably in Asia Minor), have on first-century artifacts from Jerusalem?
About eight times in the Gospels the form Maria is used to refer to Mary Magdalene (and a ninth time, if one counts Mark 16:9, part of Mark’s ending added much later). Four times the Semitic form Mariam is used. We see the same variation of names in reference to Mary, the sister of Martha, and to Mary, the mother of Jesus. In fact, Mariam is used in reference to the mother of Jesus more than a dozen times.
Accordingly, to identify the Mariamne of the Talpiot ossuary with one specific Mary of the New Testament is little more than special pleading. The Mariamne in the Talpiot tomb is almost certainly someone else.
The filmmakers also take the second name on that ossuaryñ Marañ to be a title, the feminine form of the Aramaic title for “Master” or “Teacher.” To the filmmakers, this gives added weight to their identification of the Mariamne in the ossuary with Mary Magdalene. In their view, Mary Magdalene was a central and honored early leader in the church, and her role was acknowledged by the inscription on the ossuaryñ “The Honored Teacher Mariamne.”
But here, too, the filmmakers are almost certainly wrong. Some epigraphers think the Greek inscription on the ossuary actually reads “Mariamne and Mara.” This interpretation is supported by similar, even identical, forms in Greek papyri (for example, P.Oslo 2.47; P.Oxy. 2.399; 4.745; P.Columbia 18a; and, from Palestine, 5/6Hev 12; 5/6Hev 16; and XHev/Seiyal 63 and 69). And, in fact, there is another ossuary, at Dominus Flevit, in which the names “Martha and Mary” are inscribed, thus providing an example where the names of two women are given.
In any case, we have no certain examples of “Mara” as a title (besides, the Aramaic Mara is normally masculine). The inscription on this ossuary should be read either as “Mariamne, known as Martha” or perhaps as “Mariamne and Martha,” to indicate that there were two women in the ossuary (it was common for ossuaries to hold the remains of several people).
The Lost Tomb of Jesus suggests that “Mariah” (written in Hebrew letters) is a “Latinized” form of Miriam and is quite rare and thus supports an identification with Mary the mother of Jesus. This is not convincing, however, for “Mariah” (written in Hebrew letters) is found on ossuaries from Mount Scopus (see L. Y. Rahmani, A Catalogue of Jewish Ossuaries in the Collections of the State of Israel, ossuary no. 26), the Mount of Olives (no. 27), Jericho (no. 55), in Jerusalem (for example, nos. 48, 49, 53, 56-58) and elsewhere (nos. 33-36, 41). Moreover, the name “Maria” (written in Greek letters) occurs in Josephus (Jewish Wars 6.201) and on ossuaries (Rahmani nos. 25, 28, 46). There is nothing about the nameñ written in Hebrew or in Greekñ that points to Mary the mother of Jesus.
There are also problems with the interpretations of the other names found in the Talpiot tomb. We know of no one in the family of Jesus by the name of “Mattia” (Matthew). The filmmakers point to ancestors of Jesus who had forms of that name, but their point is not convincing and is another example of special pleading.
The filmmakers also misunderstand another of the names found in the Talpiot tomb. The name YWSH should be pronounced “Yosah” (as Professor Tal Ilan in fact does in the documentary), not “Yoseh,” as the documentary consistently does. “Yosah” is not the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek form Joses, the name of Jesus’ brother (as in Mark 6:3 and elsewhere). The Hebrew equivalent is YWSY (and is found on a number of ossuaries in Greek and in Hebrew). The documentary’s discussion of this name is very misleading.
The Talpiot tomb also contained a “Judah son of Jesus.” The filmmakers suggest this Judah is the son of Jesus and of his wife Mary Magdalene. This whole line of interpretation needs to be challenged.
There is no credible evidence anywhere, at any time, that suggests that Jesus had a wife or a child. Had he a wife, it would not have been an embarrassment or something that needed to be kept secret. A wife of Jesus would have been a celebrated figure; children would have occupied honored places in the church. But there is no hint of this. Even the second century Gnostic Gospels of Mary and of Philip do not support the claim some make that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married or were lovers.
This important point seems not to have registered with the filmmakers. The inscription “Judah son of Jesus” argues against the identification of the Talpiot tomb as the tomb of Jesus and his family. Whoever this Jesus was, he had a son named Judah; Jesus of Nazareth had no children and he had no wife.
The filmmakers also suggest that a tenth ossuary from the Talpiot tomb, now lost, was in fact the now-famous James ossuary, whose inscription reads “James son of Joseph brother of Jesus.” Amos Kloner, who excavated the Talpiot tomb, rejects the suggestion; he says the tenth ossuary from Talpiot was not inscribed. In addition, the owner of the James ossuary claims that he has photographic evidence that shows that the James ossuary was in his possession years before the discovery of the Talpiot tomb in 1980.
And finally, the filmmakers also misinterpret the pointed gable (or “chevron,” as they call it) above the rosette (or “circle”) at the entrance to the Talpiot tomb. They suggest that the gable and rosette were an early Jewish-Christian symbol. They also call our attention to an ossuary at the Dominus Flevit church (some of whose ossuaries may have belonged to early Christians), which on one end has markings similar to those of the Talpiot tomb entrance.
The pointed gable and rosette pattern has nothing to do with Christianity. In fact, this pattern predates Jesus and the Christian movement by many years. It is found on Hasmonean coins and on coins struck by the tetrarch Philip, son of Herod the Great, well before the activities of Jesus and the emergence of his movement. The gable and rosette pattern is also found in Jewish funerary and synagogue art, usually symbolizing the Temple or the Ark of the Covenant. The pattern is seen on several ossuaries that we have no reason to think are Christian (see Rahmani nos. 282, 294, 392, 408, 893). The pointed gable over the rosette is a pre-Christian Jewish symbol that referred to the Temple and is not a Jewish Christian symbol. Given Jesus’ criticism of the Temple cult, it is especially ironic that the filmmakers have confused a Temple symbol for a sign used by the earliest Christians.
Was there a Jesus family tomb in ancient Jerusalem? We think there likely was not, but if there was it was almost certainly not the Talpiot tomb.
Steven Feldman is the former Web Editor of the Biblical Archaeology Society.
Craig Evans is Payzant Distinguished Professor of New Testament at Acadia Divinity College, Acadia University, in Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada. He earned a doctorate in biblical studies at Claremont Graduate University in 1983. Prior to his appointment at Acadia he was Visiting Assistant Professor of Religious Studies at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and for twenty-one years was Professor of Biblical Studies at Trinity Western University in Langley, British Columbia, where for many years he chaired the Religious Studies Department and directed the graduate program in Biblical Studies. He was also for one year a Visiting Fellow at Princeton Theological Seminary in Princeton, New Jersey.
Professor Evans is author or editor of more than fifty books. Among his authored books are To See and Not Perceive: Isaiah 6.9Ð10 in Early Jewish and Christian Interpretation (1989), Luke (1990), Jesus (1992), Noncanonical Writings and New Testament Interpretation (1992), Word and Glory: On the Exegetical and Theological Background of John’s Prologue (1993), Luke and Scripture: The Function of Sacred Tradition in Luke-Acts (1993), Jesus and His Contemporaries: Comparative Studies (1995), Jesus in Context: Temple, Purity, and Restoration (1997), Mark (2001), The Bible Knowledge Background Commentary: MatthewÐLuke (2003), Jesus and the Ossuaries (2003), and Ancient Texts for New Testament Studies (2005).
Professor Evans has also authored more than two hundred articles and reviews. He served as senior editor of the Bulletin for Biblical Research (1995Ð2004) and the Dictionary of New Testament Background (2000), winner of a Gold Medallion. Currently Evans is serving on the editorial boards of Dead Sea Discoveries, the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus, and New Testament Studies. He is also writing Matthew for the New Cambridge Bible Commentary series and a book on the Dead Sea Scrolls and Christian faith. His newest book, Fabricating Jesus: How Modern Scholars Distort the Gospels, was released by InterVarsity Press in December 2006. At the spring 2006 commencement the Alumni Association of Acadia University honoured Professor Evans with the Excellence in Research Award.
Professor Evans has given lectures at Cambridge, Durham, Oxford, Yale, and other universities, colleges, seminaries, and museums, such as the Field Museum in Chicago and the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Ottawa. He also regularly lectures and gives talks at popular conferences and retreats on the Bible and Archaeology, including the Biblical Archaeology Society summer sessions, as well as fall sessions at the annual Society of Biblical Literature meetings. He has lectured on the Dead Sea Scrolls, Jesus and archaeology, canonical and extra-canonical Gospels, and the controversial James Ossuary and has appeared several times on the television programs Faith and Reason and the John Ankerberg Show. He has appeared in the History Channel presentation on the Historical Jesus and the recent BBC and Discovery Channel presentation on Peter the apostle. He was also featured in Dateline NBC’s specials “The Last Days of Jesus” and “Jesus the Healer,” which aired in 2004 and were watched by more than 25 million North Americans. In 2005 he appeared on Dateline NBC’s “The Mystery of Miracles” and “The Birth of Jesus,” as well as History Channel’s “The Search for John the Baptist.” Professor Evans also appeared in 2006 in National Geographic Channel’s documentary on the recently discovered Gospel of Judas and in Dateline NBC’s “The Mystery of the Jesus Papers.” He also appeared in National Geographic Channel’s recently aired documentary sequel to the Gospel of Judas, entitled “The Secret Lives of Jesus.” He has recently been interviewed for documentaries investigating the extracanonical Gospels, the resurrection of Jesus, and the controversial Talpiot Tomb in Jerusalem.
Professor Evans lives in Kentville, Nova Scotia, with his wife Ginny; they have two grown daughters and a grandson.
This article was first published on BHD, March 11, 2007
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What about the fact that Mary is believed by some to have been buried in Jerusalem? Wouldn’t that undermine the argument Jesus’s family tomb would have been in Nazareth not Jerusalem?
I agree with Eliyaho.
In the Bible many references are made to Jesus as “Rabboni” meaning HE WAS a RABBI. ALL should KNOW HE WAS a Rabbi. To become a RABBI in those days one HAD TO BE MARRIED. PERIOD. And YES HE WAS married to Mary Magdalene.
Since 300ad-400ad the WHOLE FIGHT amongst people HAS BEEN that the Roman Empire butchered the book and INDEED it is IN THE HISTORY BOOKS that they INDEED order all books be brought to them and they INDEED picked and chose what to KEEP and that ALL OTHERS be burned and destroyed. The SAME EMPIRE that KILLED JESUS as you said with 300-400 blows leaving him one eyed. Yet you ALL BELIEVE Jesus left that SAME ROMAN EMPIRE in charge of those teachings and have INSISTED for centuries you DID NOT butcher the book. That all those books never existed. Yet over the past 100 yrs many HAVE been found and now you claim like always they are just heresy and false books.
Just like the Talpoit tomb you claim is fake. WHY would Christians n Jews alike spend big bucks fighting those interested in further studying it’s contents if it is just NOTHING and NOT the tomb of Jesus? WHY WOULD YOU CARE? Surely a tomb with 7 of the most prominent Biblical names 3 with no names on them IS WORTH STUDYING yet BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT or even releasing the ossauries for further study which SCREAMS COVER UP. DO NOT let the PUBLIC SEE OR KNOW what WAS FOUND. WHY? Because the TRUTH proves BOTH RELIGIONS to be a FARCE and HOAX.
Go put “book of” in the search box of a KJV BIBLE and watch HOW MANY books come GOD references IN THE BIBLE that are NOT THERE. Some of those SAME BOOKS being books found even you claim are Hersey also and oh well maybe the ones the Bible itself mentions might be real but the REST are ALL HERSEY. The first 4 bks of the NT have 28, 16, 24, & 21 chapters respectively. ALL 4 telling the exact same story by 4 different people so either 3 added BS to the story or 3 butchered part of the story. Compare and study them and it’s to walk away WITHOUT believing ALL 4 BOOKS have been butchered n added to in some way. So DO people BELIEVE THE BIBLE or do they BELIEVE CHRISTIANS? Who do YOU BIEVE? I BELIEVE THE BIBLE which further teaches you IN the NT IT WAS being altered while Jesus n Mary were here, WOULD GET WORSE once they were gone and that eventually one group of people WOULD take it over and butcher it royally and WOULD CREATE A FALSE MANMADE RELIGION refered to as “the religion of the antichrist” meaning FALSE CHRIST. Jesus even says in Mathew NO ONE is to be CALLING HIM “THE CHRIST”. He was a Christ and anointed BY MARY M as a Christ meaning a true n perfect follower of THE CHRIST. THE REAL CHRIST. And WHAT POWER HATH SHE to be annointing Jesus as a Christ?
Bottom line is the END TIMES ARE HERE you HAVE ALL witnessed the 4 blood moons and both OT & NT teach that TWO MESSIAHS COME ALWAYS TWO yet Christians ONLY squealing about ONE? WHAT HAPPENED to the SECOND ONE. From back then AND NOW? WHY is no one screaming TWO ARE COMING AND BACK?
The END TIMES ARE INDEED HERE n Jeeus n Mary knocking at the door and as the BOOK SAYS “EVERY jot n tittle it speaks of MUST come to pass FIRST then the END TIMES will be here. So THAT MEANS ALL HAS COME TO PASS but the final chapters of Revelations. It also means “the FALSE MANMADE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST” IS HERE upon earth and HAS ALREADY spread that FALSE MANMADE RELIGION to all 4 corners of the world over the past 1,000 yrs. So just WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT HAS DONE THAT?
When ya get all done answering all these questions for yourselves I suggest you go read Revelations 22:16-21 to see the final epilogue and WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN to those who butcher the teachings or add lies n opinions to the book as GODS teaching when it IS NOT WRITTEN IN the BOOK. That book says very clearly if it IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK then YOU ARE NOT TO BELIEVE IT and that EACH PERSON is to be reading the book FOR THEMSELVES & DECIFERING FOR THEMSELVES those teachings. Jesus WARNS YOU IT WOULD BE for THAT REASON MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT. Because you DO NOT READ THE BOOK and ARE FOLLOWING FALSE PROPHETS N THEIR OPINIONS.
HE COMMANDS NO ONE is to be calling ANY MAN ON EARTH “FATHER” Yet ALL of Christianity calls the Pope the Holy Father n Priests Father and prodestants call their leaders the church Fathers. Talk about a slap in the face to JESUS n what HE SAYS. IN A RELIGION where ONLY 5-8% of its people have even read the book ONCE much less STUDY IT AT ALL those are some pretty sorry statistics for the religion of Christianity. Also remember IT SAYS GOD WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE BLOOD YOU SHED UPON THIS EARTH in the meantime also.
But most of all note when you read those last final verses GOD signs off that book referring to HIMSELF? AS “the SPIRIT and BRIDE/’SHE’ says come…” Now ASK YOURSELVES WHY would a GOD that HATES PAGANS and thinks they’re all a bunch of whores n witches sign off that book AS A FEMALE? WHY IS IT Christians worship Jesus on Dec 25th Christmas as HIS birthday and on Easter which history proves are BOTH old PAGAN HOLIDAYS and Jesus himself was born August 21st? Also ask yourselves WHY those writing this article LEFT OUT all the part about the Talpiot Tomb being PERFECTLY geometrically aligned with the pyramids of Giza and the temple IN Jerusalem or that MARY MAGDALENE HERSELF came from a very wealthy family? SHE HERSELF also funded THEIR travels. You hear all these Christians jumping up and down Jesus is coming but NO ONE talking about “the religion of the antichrist” that IS WALKING the earth or the END TIMES WOULD NOT BE HERE?! Plain n simple. Also how is it “LADY JUSTICE” HOLDS THE SCALES OVER “GODS COUNTRY” in America? America who’s REAL NAME WAS “Ameruka” the name given you when you came to America which means MOTHER LAND and home of the Red Plummed Serpent in Native teachings but CHANGED BY CHRISTIANS to America n some BS story CHRISTIANS MADE UP and HAVE BEEN TEACHING PEOPLE that some fool named Columbus DISCOVERED America? A land with OVER 100 MILLION people living here in NA AT THAT time? 60 MILLION had genocide commited on them BY CHRISTIANS to STEAL this land and its gold?! Also it says right ON that temple in Jerusalem that the land and temple there BELONG TO the Muslims written in ancient Aramaic ON THISE BEAUTIFUL TILES ON the DOME!?
People better WAKE UP n REAS THE BOOK N STUDY IT because I’m SURE MONA LISA has a SECRET behind her smile that IS GOING TO LEVEL BOTH RELIGIONS to the ground. It’s also worth pondering WHY a GOD that deems WOMEN such lowlifes BENEATH MEN would call the earth MOTHER EARTH and nature MOTHER NATURE? That goes without saying the GODDESS SOPHIA butchered FROM THE BIBLE HAS OVER 19,000 NAMES UPON THIS EARTH! So for a GOD that thinks women are a bunch of devil possesed pagan whores n witches n to be seen n not heard I find it HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS “HE” would place MOTHER SUPREME IN ALL OTHER religions n GIVE HER so MANY NAMES N TITLES WORLDWIDE “BUT FOR” The warring killing Bible butchering Christians Jews n Muslims? Note also Rev 2 says those people calling themselves Jews ARE LYING AND NOT REALLY JEWS AT ALL!
So ponder ALL OF THIS and ASK YOURSELVES WHY these guys pick n choose to what all to tell you about the tomb n the 19 assault was even FOUND as a result of the studies done on the tomb and WHY BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT even bring studied or made public it was even FOUND. IT WAS OVER 20 YEARS AFTER its discovery that anyone, one person, actually found out about it and saw the ossauries in the basement of a museum where they put like trash ossauries by the Jews who TOLD NO ONE AT ALL about the discovery. Christians perked up at first until they found out what ossauries said or lacked saying an Jesus n Mary Magdalenes n then all fights started with them also to study the tomb further? WHY? MUCH TO PONDER on the subject FOR SURE. DENIAL can be BRUTAL and EACH PEREON MUST READ THE BOOK N STUDY IT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT LISTEN TO ALL THOSE FALSE PROPHETS IN YOUR PULPITS AS JESUS COMMANDS. You are FOLLOWRRS OF THEM NOT WHAT JESUS SAYS if YOU DO NOT and as the BOOK TEACHES DENYING JESUS IS NT something you do with YOUR MOUTH it IS when you CLAIM you FOLLOW JESUS but are conducting yourselves the OPPOSITE of what JESUS TELLS YOU TO. Like READ the book n you DO NOT or call NO MAN FATHER yet you ALL DO ANYWAY. THAT MAKES YOU a FOLLOWER OF FALSE PROPHETS LYING TO YOU while NOT FOLLOWING WHAT JESUS HIMSELF TELLS YOU TO. THAT IS DENYING JESUS.
So PRAY people because Judgement Day IS UPON YOU and AS THE BOOK SAYS IT IS FOR THIS REASON MANY OF YOU WILL NJT MAKE IT. READ the BOOKS on the TALPIOT TOMB and get the WHOLE STORY FIRST and understand the ODDS that this tomb IS NOT the FAMILT TOMB of Jesus and Mary Magdalene are ONE IN A number SO LONG it would take 2 lines just to write it with a name like GAZILLIONS because it’s so ASTRONOMICAL we never even hear it nor can I even remember it. Seldom do WE even think or reference things past a trillion in this world for most but scientists n astronomers.
So you all READ THE BOOKS FOR YOYRSELVES so you have the WHOLE TRUTH N STORY n you might wish to question WHY secular Scientist discovered the Bible Codes as well as a secular scholar on Hebrew discovered the HIDDEB BOOK OF DANIEL right IN THE BIBLE. Yet BOTH had NO BELIEF IN GOD OR RELIGION. WHY would GOD HAVE THEM MAKE SUCH DISCOVERIES OF SUCH MAGNITUDE N NOT A CHRISTIAN OR RELIGIOUS PERSON? Do ya suppose it IS because THEY KEEP LYING N BUTCHERING THE BOOK N ITS TEACHINGS?
MUCH here to ponder and time for people ro WAKE UP because the TWO MESSIAHS ARE BACK AND WALKING THIS EARTH sneaking up on you ALL like a theif in the night and MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT because they DO NOT READ OR FOLLOW THE BOOK THEY FOLLOW FALSE PROPHETS and what THEY SAY, NOT WHAT JESUS OR GOD SAY.
Bless you all in the troubled times ahead and my thoughts n prayers go out to ALL OF MANKIND during these troubled times ahead. Much love ❤️ light ✨️ and peace ✌️ be with you ALL. PRAY for IT IS the MOST POWERFUL TOOL YOU HAVE… So be it and Amen.
In the Bible many references are made to Jesus as “Rabboni” meaning HE WAS a RABBI. ALL should KNOW HE WAS a Rabbi. To become a RABBI in those days one HAD TO BE MARRIED. PERIOD. And YES HE WAS married to Mary Magdalene.
Since 300ad-400ad the WHOLE FIGHT amongst people HAS BEEN that the Roman Empire butchered the book and INDEED it is IN THE HISTORY BOOKS that they INDEED order all books be brought to them and they INDEED picked and chose what to KEEP and that ALL OTHERS be burned and destroyed. The SAME EMPIRE that KILLED JESUS as you said with 300-400 blows leaving him one eyed. Yet you ALL BELIEVE Jesus left that SAME ROMAN EMPIRE in charge of those teachings and have INSISTED for centuries you DID NOT butcher the book. That all those books never existed. Yet over the past 100 yrs many HAVE been found and now you claim like always they are just heresy and false books.
Just like the Talpoit tomb you claim is fake. WHY would Christians n Jews alike spend big bucks fighting those interested in further studying it’s contents if it is just NOTHING and NOT the tomb of Jesus? WHY WOULD YOU CARE? Surely a tomb with 7 of the most prominent Biblical names 3 with no names on them IS WORTH STUDYING yet BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT or even releasing the ossauries for further study which SCREAMS COVER UP. DO NOT let the PUBLIC SEE OR KNOW what WAS FOUND. WHY? Because the TRUTH proves BOTH RELIGIONS to be a FARCE and HOAX.
Go put “book of” in the search box of a KJV BIBLE and watch HOW MANY books come GOD references IN THE BIBLE that are NOT THERE. Some of those SAME BOOKS being books found even you claim are Hersey also and oh well maybe the ones the Bible itself mentions might be real but the REST are ALL HERSEY. The first 4 bks of the NT have 28, 16, 24, & 21 chapters respectively. ALL 4 telling the exact same story by 4 different people so either 3 added BS to the story or 3 butchered part of the story. Compare and study them and it’s to walk away WITHOUT believing ALL 4 BOOKS have been butchered n added to in some way. So DO people BELIEVE THE BIBLE or do they BELIEVE CHRISTIANS? Who do YOU BIEVE? I BELIEVE THE BIBLE which further teaches you IN the NT IT WAS being altered while Jesus n Mary were here, WOULD GET WORSE once they were gone and that eventually one group of people WOULD take it over and butcher it royally and WOULD CREATE A FALSE MANMADE RELIGION refered to as “the religion of the antichrist” meaning FALSE CHRIST. Jesus even says in Mathew NO ONE is to be CALLING HIM “THE CHRIST”. He was a Christ and anointed BY MARY M as a Christ meaning a true n perfect follower of THE CHRIST. THE REAL CHRIST. And WHAT POWER HATH SHE to be annointing Jesus as a Christ?
Bottom line is the END TIMES ARE HERE you HAVE ALL witnessed the 4 blood moons and both OT & NT teach that TWO MESSIAHS COME ALWAYS TWO yet Christians ONLY squealing about ONE? WHAT HAPPENED to the SECOND ONE. From back then AND NOW? WHY is no one screaming TWO ARE COMING AND BACK?
The END TIMES ARE INDEED HERE n Jeeus n Mary knocking at the door and as the BOOK SAYS “EVERY jot n tittle it speaks of MUST come to pass FIRST then the END TIMES will be here. So THAT MEANS ALL HAS COME TO PASS but the final chapters of Revelations. It also means “the FALSE MANMADE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST” IS HERE upon earth and HAS ALREADY spread that FALSE MANMADE RELIGION to all 4 corners of the world over the past 1,000 yrs. So just WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT HAS DONE THAT?
When ya get all done answering all these questions for yourselves I suggest you go read Revelations 22:16-21 to see the final epilogue and WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN to those who butcher the teachings or add lies n opinions to the book as GODS teaching when it IS NOT WRITTEN IN the BOOK. That book says very clearly if it IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK then YOU ARE NOT TO BELIEVE IT and that EACH PERSON is to be reading the book FOR THEMSELVES & DECIFERING FOR THEMSELVES those teachings. Jesus WARNS YOU IT WOULD BE for THAT REASON MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT. Because you DO NOT READ THE BOOK and ARE FOLLOWING FALSE PROPHETS N THEIR OPINIONS.
HE COMMANDS NO ONE is to be calling ANY MAN ON EARTH “FATHER” Yet ALL of Christianity calls the Pope the Holy Father n Priests Father and prodestants call their leaders the church Fathers. Talk about a slap in the face to JESUS n what HE SAYS. IN A RELIGION where ONLY 5-8% of its people have even read the book ONCE much less STUDY IT AT ALL those are some pretty sorry statistics for the religion of Christianity. Also remember IT SAYS GOD WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE BLOOD YOU SHED UPON THIS EARTH in the meantime also.
But most of all note when you read those last final verses GOD signs off that book referring to HIMSELF? AS “the SPIRIT and BRIDE/’SHE’ says come…” Now ASK YOURSELVES WHY would a GOD that HATES PAGANS and thinks they’re all a bunch of whores n witches sign off that book AS A FEMALE? WHY IS IT Christians worship Jesus on Dec 25th Christmas as HIS birthday and on Easter which history proves are BOTH old PAGAN HOLIDAYS and Jesus himself was born August 21st? Also ask yourselves WHY those writing this article LEFT OUT all the part about the Talpiot Tomb being PERFECTLY geometrically aligned with the pyramids of Giza and the temple IN Jerusalem or that MARY MAGDALENE HERSELF came from a very wealthy family? SHE HERSELF also funded THEIR travels. You hear all these Christians jumping up and down Jesus is coming but NO ONE talking about “the religion of the antichrist” that IS WALKING the earth or the END TIMES WOULD NOT BE HERE?! Plain n simple. Also how is it “LADY JUSTICE” HOLDS THE SCALES OVER “GODS COUNTRY” in America? America who’s REAL NAME WAS “Ameruka” the name given you when you came to America which means MOTHER LAND and home of the Red Plummed Serpent in Native teachings but CHANGED BY CHRISTIANS to America n some BS story CHRISTIANS MADE UP and HAVE BEEN TEACHING PEOPLE that some fool named Columbus DISCOVERED America? A land with OVER 100 MILLION people living here in NA AT THAT time? 60 MILLION had genocide commited on them BY CHRISTIANS to STEAL this land and its gold?! Also it says right ON that temple in Jerusalem that the land and temple there BELONG TO the Muslims written in ancient Aramaic ON THISE BEAUTIFUL TILES ON the DOME!?
People better WAKE UP n REAS THE BOOK N STUDY IT because I’m SURE MONA LISA has a SECRET behind her smile that IS GOING TO LEVEL BOTH RELIGIONS to the ground. It’s also worth pondering WHY a GOD that deems WOMEN such lowlifes BENEATH MEN would call the earth MOTHER EARTH and nature MOTHER NATURE? That goes without saying the GODDESS SOPHIA butchered FROM THE BIBLE HAS OVER 19,000 NAMES UPON THIS EARTH! So for a GOD that thinks women are a bunch of devil possesed pagan whores n witches n to be seen n not heard I find it HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS “HE” would place MOTHER SUPREME IN ALL OTHER religions n GIVE HER so MANY NAMES N TITLES WORLDWIDE “BUT FOR” The warring killing Bible butchering Christians Jews n Muslims? Note also Rev 2 says those people calling themselves Jews ARE LYING AND NOT REALLY JEWS AT ALL!
So ponder ALL OF THIS and ASK YOURSELVES WHY these guys pick n choose to what all to tell you about the tomb n the 19 assault was even FOUND as a result of the studies done on the tomb and WHY BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT even bring studied or made public it was even FOUND. IT WAS OVER 20 YEARS AFTER its discovery that anyone, one person, actually found out about it and saw the ossauries in the basement of a museum where they put like trash ossauries by the Jews who TOLD NO ONE AT ALL about the discovery. Christians perked up at first until they found out what ossauries said or lacked saying an Jesus n Mary Magdalenes n then all fights started with them also to study the tomb further? WHY? MUCH TO PONDER on the subject FOR SURE. DENIAL can be BRUTAL and EACH PEREON MUST READ THE BOOK N STUDY IT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT LISTEN TO ALL THOSE FALSE PROPHETS IN YOUR PULPITS AS JESUS COMMANDS. You are FOLLOWRRS OF THEM NOT WHAT JESUS SAYS if YOU DO NOT and as the BOOK TEACHES DENYING JESUS IS NT something you do with YOUR MOUTH it IS when you CLAIM you FOLLOW JESUS but are conducting yourselves the OPPOSITE of what JESUS TELLS YOU TO. Like READ the book n you DO NOT or call NO MAN FATHER yet you ALL DO ANYWAY. THAT MAKES YOU a FOLLOWER OF FALSE PROPHETS LYING TO YOU while NOT FOLLOWING WHAT JESUS HIMSELF TELLS YOU TO. THAT IS DENYING JESUS.
So PRAY people because Judgement Day IS UPON YOU and AS THE BOOK SAYS IT IS FOR THIS REASON MANY OF YOU WILL NJT MAKE IT. READ the BOOKS on the TALPIOT TOMB and get the WHOLE STORY FIRST and understand the ODDS that this tomb IS NOT the FAMILT TOMB of Jesus and Mary Magdalene are ONE IN A number SO LONG it would take 2 lines just to write it with a name like GAZILLIONS because it’s so ASTRONOMICAL we never even hear it nor can I even remember it. Seldom do WE even think or reference things past a trillion in this world for most but scientists n astronomers.
So you all READ THE BOOKS FOR YOYRSELVES so you have the WHOLE TRUTH N STORY n you might wish to question WHY secular Scientist discovered the Bible Codes as well as a secular scholar on Hebrew discovered the HIDDEB BOOK OF DANIEL right IN THE BIBLE. Yet BOTH had NO BELIEF IN GOD OR RELIGION. WHY would GOD HAVE THEM MAKE SUCH DISCOVERIES OF SUCH MAGNITUDE N NOT A CHRISTIAN OR RELIGIOUS PERSON? Do ya suppose it IS because THEY KEEP LYING N BUTCHERING THE BOOK N ITS TEACHINGS?
MUCH here to ponder and time for people ro WAKE UP because the TWO MESSIAHS ARE BACK AND WALKING THIS EARTH sneaking up on you ALL like a theif in the night and MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT because they DO NOT READ OR FOLLOW THE BOOK THEY FOLLOW FALSE PROPHETS and what THEY SAY, NOT WHAT JESUS OR GOD SAY.
Bless you all in the troubled times ahead and my thoughts n prayers go out to ALL OF MANKIND during these troubled times ahead. Much love ❤️ light ✨️ and peace ✌️ be with you ALL. PRAY for IT IS the MOST POWERFUL TOOL YOU HAVE… So be it and Amen.
I think they have put more effort into proving than you have of disproving.
The trouble with having a Jewish state and Jewish state controlled archeological authority is that their natural reaction will be to reject anything that potentially proves not only that Jesus was real but also that he was the Messiah because that contradicts Israel’s main system of belief.
I myself, am from Israeli descent but am not Jewish.
I agree with Eliyaho.
In the Bible many references are made to Jesus as “Rabboni” meaning HE WAS a RABBI. ALL should KNOW HE WAS a Rabbi. To become a RABBI in those days one HAD TO BE MARRIED. PERIOD. And YES HE WAS married to Mary Magdalene.
Since 300ad-400ad the WHOLE FIGHT amongst people HAS BEEN that the Roman Empire butchered the book and INDEED it is IN THE HISTORY BOOKS that they INDEED order all books be brought to them and they INDEED picked and chose what to KEEP and that ALL OTHERS be burned and destroyed. The SAME EMPIRE that KILLED JESUS as you said with 300-400 blows leaving him one eyed. Yet you ALL BELIEVE Jesus left that SAME ROMAN EMPIRE in charge of those teachings and have INSISTED for centuries you DID NOT butcher the book. That all those books never existed. Yet over the past 100 yrs many HAVE been found and now you claim like always they are just heresy and false books.
Just like the Talpoit tomb you claim is fake. WHY would Christians n Jews alike spend big bucks fighting those interested in further studying it’s contents if it is just NOTHING and NOT the tomb of Jesus? WHY WOULD YOU CARE? Surely a tomb with 7 of the most prominent Biblical names 3 with no names on them IS WORTH STUDYING yet BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT or even releasing the ossauries for further study which SCREAMS COVER UP. DO NOT let the PUBLIC SEE OR KNOW what WAS FOUND. WHY? Because the TRUTH proves BOTH RELIGIONS to be a FARCE and HOAX.
Go put “book of” in the search box of a KJV BIBLE and watch HOW MANY books come GOD references IN THE BIBLE that are NOT THERE. Some of those SAME BOOKS being books found even you claim are Hersey also and oh well maybe the ones the Bible itself mentions might be real but the REST are ALL HERSEY. The first 4 bks of the NT have 28, 16, 24, & 21 chapters respectively. ALL 4 telling the exact same story by 4 different people so either 3 added BS to the story or 3 butchered part of the story. Compare and study them and it’s to walk away WITHOUT believing ALL 4 BOOKS have been butchered n added to in some way. So DO people BELIEVE THE BIBLE or do they BELIEVE CHRISTIANS? Who do YOU BIEVE? I BELIEVE THE BIBLE which further teaches you IN the NT IT WAS being altered while Jesus n Mary were here, WOULD GET WORSE once they were gone and that eventually one group of people WOULD take it over and butcher it royally and WOULD CREATE A FALSE MANMADE RELIGION refered to as “the religion of the antichrist” meaning FALSE CHRIST. Jesus even says in Mathew NO ONE is to be CALLING HIM “THE CHRIST”. He was a Christ and anointed BY MARY M as a Christ meaning a true n perfect follower of THE CHRIST. THE REAL CHRIST. And WHAT POWER HATH SHE to be annointing Jesus as a Christ?
Bottom line is the END TIMES ARE HERE you HAVE ALL witnessed the 4 blood moons and both OT & NT teach that TWO MESSIAHS COME ALWAYS TWO yet Christians ONLY squealing about ONE? WHAT HAPPENED to the SECOND ONE. From back then AND NOW? WHY is no one screaming TWO ARE COMING AND BACK?
The END TIMES ARE INDEED HERE n Jeeus n Mary knocking at the door and as the BOOK SAYS “EVERY jot n tittle it speaks of MUST come to pass FIRST then the END TIMES will be here. So THAT MEANS ALL HAS COME TO PASS but the final chapters of Revelations. It also means “the FALSE MANMADE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST” IS HERE upon earth and HAS ALREADY spread that FALSE MANMADE RELIGION to all 4 corners of the world over the past 1,000 yrs. So just WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT HAS DONE THAT?
When ya get all done answering all these questions for yourselves I suggest you go read Revelations 22:16-21 to see the final epilogue and WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN to those who butcher the teachings or add lies n opinions to the book as GODS teaching when it IS NOT WRITTEN IN the BOOK. That book says very clearly if it IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK then YOU ARE NOT TO BELIEVE IT and that EACH PERSON is to be reading the book FOR THEMSELVES & DECIFERING FOR THEMSELVES those teachings. Jesus WARNS YOU IT WOULD BE for THAT REASON MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT. Because you DO NOT READ THE BOOK and ARE FOLLOWING FALSE PROPHETS N THEIR OPINIONS.
HE COMMANDS NO ONE is to be calling ANY MAN ON EARTH “FATHER” Yet ALL of Christianity calls the Pope the Holy Father n Priests Father and prodestants call their leaders the church Fathers. Talk about a slap in the face to JESUS n what HE SAYS. IN A RELIGION where ONLY 5-8% of its people have even read the book ONCE much less STUDY IT AT ALL those are some pretty sorry statistics for the religion of Christianity. Also remember IT SAYS GOD WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE BLOOD YOU SHED UPON THIS EARTH in the meantime also.
But most of all note when you read those last final verses GOD signs off that book referring to HIMSELF? AS “the SPIRIT and BRIDE/’SHE’ says come…” Now ASK YOURSELVES WHY would a GOD that HATES PAGANS and thinks they’re all a bunch of whores n witches sign off that book AS A FEMALE? WHY IS IT Christians worship Jesus on Dec 25th Christmas as HIS birthday and on Easter which history proves are BOTH old PAGAN HOLIDAYS and Jesus himself was born August 21st? Also ask yourselves WHY those writing this article LEFT OUT all the part about the Talpiot Tomb being PERFECTLY geometrically aligned with the pyramids of Giza and the temple IN Jerusalem or that MARY MAGDALENE HERSELF came from a very wealthy family? SHE HERSELF also funded THEIR travels. You hear all these Christians jumping up and down Jesus is coming but NO ONE talking about “the religion of the antichrist” that IS WALKING the earth or the END TIMES WOULD NOT BE HERE?! Plain n simple. Also how is it “LADY JUSTICE” HOLDS THE SCALES OVER “GODS COUNTRY” in America? America who’s REAL NAME WAS “Ameruka” the name given you when you came to America which means MOTHER LAND and home of the Red Plummed Serpent in Native teachings but CHANGED BY CHRISTIANS to America n some BS story CHRISTIANS MADE UP and HAVE BEEN TEACHING PEOPLE that some fool named Columbus DISCOVERED America? A land with OVER 100 MILLION people living here in NA AT THAT time? 60 MILLION had genocide commited on them BY CHRISTIANS to STEAL this land and its gold?! Also it says right ON that temple in Jerusalem that the land and temple there BELONG TO the Muslims written in ancient Aramaic ON THISE BEAUTIFUL TILES ON the DOME!?
People better WAKE UP n READ THE BOOK N STUDY IT because I’m SURE MONA LISA has a SECRET behind her smile that IS GOING TO LEVEL BOTH RELIGIONS to the ground. It’s also worth pondering WHY a GOD that deems WOMEN such lowlifes BENEATH MEN would call the earth MOTHER EARTH and nature MOTHER NATURE? That goes without saying the GODDESS SOPHIA butchered FROM THE BIBLE HAS OVER 10,000 NAMES UPON THIS EARTH! So for a GOD that thinks WOMEN are a bunch of devil possesed pagan whores n witches n to be seen n not heard I find it HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS “HE” would
not only sign off rhe Bible using a “SHE” reference but place MOTHER SUPREME IN ALL OTHER religions n GIVE HER so MANY NAMES N TITLES WORLDWIDE “BUT FOR” The warring killing Bible butchering Christians Jews n Muslims? Note also Rev 2 says those people calling themselves Jews ARE LYING AND NOT REALLY JEWS AT ALL!?
So ponder ALL OF THIS and ASK YOURSELVES WHY these guys pick n choose to what all to tell you about the tomb n the 10 assaury was even FOUND as a result of the studies done on the tomb and WHY BOTH RELIGIONS FOUGHT AGAINST IT even bring studied or made public it was even FOUND. IT WAS OVER 20 YEARS AFTER its discovery that anyone, one person, actually found out about it and saw the ossauries in the basement of a museum where they put like trash ossauries by the Jews who TOLD NO ONE AT ALL about the discovery. Christians perked up at first until they found out what ossauries said or lacked saying an Jesus n Mary Magdalenes n then all fights started with them also to study the tomb further? WHY? MUCH TO PONDER on the subject FOR SURE. DENIAL can be BRUTAL and EACH PEREON MUST READ THE BOOK N STUDY IT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT LISTEN TO ALL THOSE FALSE PROPHETS IN YOUR PULPITS AS JESUS COMMANDS. You are FOLLOWRRS OF THEM NOT WHAT JESUS SAYS if YOU DO NOT and as the BOOK TEACHES DENYING JESUS IS NT something you do with YOUR MOUTH it IS when you CLAIM you FOLLOW JESUS but are conducting yourselves the OPPOSITE of what JESUS TELLS YOU TO. Like READ the book n you DO NOT or call NO MAN FATHER yet you ALL DO ANYWAY. THAT MAKES YOU a FOLLOWER OF FALSE PROPHETS LYING TO YOU while NOT FOLLOWING WHAT JESUS HIMSELF TELLS YOU TO. THAT IS DENYING JESUS.
So PRAY people because Judgement Day IS UPON YOU and AS THE BOOK SAYS IT IS FOR THIS REASON MANY OF YOU WILL NJT MAKE IT. READ the BOOKS on the TALPIOT TOMB and get the WHOLE STORY FIRST and understand the ODDS that this tomb IS NOT the FAMILT TOMB of Jesus and Mary Magdalene are ONE IN A number SO LONG it would take 2 lines just to write it with a name like GAZILLIONS because it’s so ASTRONOMICAL we never even hear it nor can I even remember it. Seldom do WE even think or reference things past a trillion in this world for most but scientists n astronomers.
So you all READ THE BOOKS FOR YOYRSELVES so you have the WHOLE TRUTH N STORY n you might wish to question WHY secular Scientist discovered the Bible Codes as well as a secular scholar on Hebrew discovered the HIDDEB BOOK OF DANIEL right IN THE BIBLE. Yet BOTH had NO BELIEF IN GOD OR RELIGION. WHY would GOD HAVE THEM MAKE SUCH DISCOVERIES OF SUCH MAGNITUDE N NOT A CHRISTIAN OR RELIGIOUS PERSON? Do ya suppose it IS because THEY KEEP LYING N BUTCHERING THE BOOK N ITS TEACHINGS?
MUCH here to ponder and time for people ro WAKE UP because the TWO MESSIAHS ARE BACK AND WALKING THIS EARTH sneaking up on you ALL like a theif in the night and MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT because they DO NOT READ OR FOLLOW THE BOOK THEY FOLLOW FALSE PROPHETS and what THEY SAY, NOT WHAT JESUS OR GOD SAY.
Bless you all in the troubled times ahead and my thoughts n prayers go out to ALL OF MANKIND during these troubled times ahead. Much love ❤️ light ✨️ and peace ✌️ be with you ALL. PRAY for IT IS the MOST POWERFUL TOOL YOU HAVE… So be it and Amen.
P.S. The other major reason Christians n Jews BOTH disclaim it is because Jesus’s ossaury has only his name and a cross at the end and Mary Magdalenes IS the one that IS ornately carved something ONLY high priests n priestesses were honored with and HER ossaurie has her name “Marriame aka Lord and Master” carved ON IT. So it PROVES BOTH RELIGIONS are a farce and hoax.
This is why I no longer subscribe to the BAR, You only support views that you agree with. Your confirmation bias is stunning. There is nothing wrong with seeking only the truth and the BAR blocks all efforts to get at the truth.
This response from 2008 is terribly out of date and since that time there have been lots of academic discussion back and forth, including a published volume based on a Jerusalem conference, edited by James Charlesworth and many more studies as well as tests. For an update on everything please see these links: https://jamestabor.com/in-depth-reading-on-the-talpiot-jesus-family-tomb/
Do you believe that the “James son of Joseph brother of Jesus” ossuary is the tenth/missing ossuary of the Talpiot tomb, catalogued by Amos Kloner as ‘Plain’ in the original excavation?
I find it interesting that the main assumption taken by Craig Evans and Steven Feldman that they fail to disclose is that they don’t believe the bible. For instance they assert that the family of Jesus couldn’t afford a tomb cut into bedrock and wouldn’t bury him in Jerusalem. This assertion is based on disregarding the account made by all four Gospel writers that a wealthy statesman, Joseph of Arimathea, paid for all his funeral costs and buried him in Jerusalem. It would save me the 15 min of reading if you would put a header on the article stating- “We are Bible minimalists and are completely disregarding the bible in our analysis.
“And the bodies of them [ the Two Witnesses]
(will lay) upon the Great City’s Plateia,
which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where our LORD — was indeed — crucified.”
Revelation 11:8, Translation mine
In locating the Plateia (or “street of Egypt”) in Jerusalem, “where our LORD was crucified”, we revisit Matthew 13:22 with Jeremiah 46:7-8, and surmise that “Egypt” in Jerusalem deals with the Kidron Valley.
We are required (by Scripture) to first locate this geography of Jerusalem that is called “Egypt”; and then to intersect that location with the geography called “Sodom”.
The manner in which the location of “the street of Sodom”, in Jerusalem, is identified as the Hinom valley — is quickly dispatched with the fact that the Hebrew Ge-Hinom (“Valley of Hinom”) is transliterated in the Greek as Ge-henna (“the Valley of Burning Fires”).
This part of the valley of Hinom to which we are most concerned, is directly SOUTH of the Temple, and runs in an east-west direction.
Therefore, we need only to find the next intersection point: the Hinom valley representing Revelation 11:8’s “Sodom”, which Scripture describes as a place associated with “fire, brimstone (sulfur)… and great smoke as from a furnace” (Genesis 19:24,28).
That intersect with the Kidron Valley, a Wadi in the First Century A.D., and formerly much deeper and with bridges that spanned the Kidron between Olivet and the Temple Mount were clearly obviously there, from Gethsemane to the Temple Mount and from just south of the Water gate over to Olivet’s third peak base.
The Siloam Gate of the Gihon Spring is directly tied to Messiah going out this Gate in the Hebrew of Nehemiah.
“But the Gate of the Fountain [Gihon]
repaired SHALLUN
the SON of COL-HOZEH, the RULER of MIZPAH;
and he built it,
and covered it, set up the doors thereof,
the locks thereof, and the bars thereof,
and the wall of the Pool of Siloa(c)h by the King’s Garden,
and unto the stairs that go down from the city of David.”
(Nehemiah 3:15) KJV
In Nehemiah 3:15, what is being said, is that, “He who is called Recompense” – i.e. the Savior (SHALLUN), is the Son of “the One who is able to see all”- i.e. GOD the Father (COL-HOZEH), who is in turn the Ruler of the “Height” / “Watchtower”/ or “Watch”- i.e. Heaven (MIZPAH).
This is another Messianic Title of YHVeH Messiah: “He who is called Salvation” — “the Son of the Heavenly Father” — “Ruler of Heaven and Earth”.
In the Hebrew, Nehemiah 3:15 is directly related to the Torah’s citation of Jacob becoming the builder and ruler of “Mizpah” (Genesis 31:44-49). In those verses of Genesis chapter 31, we see that a mound of stones that are built up for a testimonial witness (or Galeed), and was called “MIZPAH”: is literally become “the Watchtower of (Heaven)”
The “all-seeing One”, unlike the Masons who worship a fallen cherub as their deity, represents GOD the Father. Thus, the “Ruler of the Mizpah”, the “Ruler of the Stone heap”; i.e., the true “Ruler of the Temple”, the one holding the scales, is the “son of the All-seeing One”: “YHVeH whom ye seek” (Malachi 3:1), who is de facto, “the son of GOD”.
The Masonic all-seeing eye, usually preferring the left over Jesus’ open right eye, represents the theft of the one-eye Jesus saw with while on the Cross. Jesus received 400-600 blows by Roman soldiers that lined up and were given one open hand slap upon Jesus’ left side of the face, so that the eye was shut and the face swelled out and puffed out far beyond what could be distinguished for human…being some sort of water puffing out of the skin that was virtually uncontrolled as what happens to a very bad sprain.
In essence, to those at the very top in Masonry, they know that the all-seeing eye in MASONRY is an intentional mocking of Jesus upon the Cross firstly, and alleged references to other things are merely diversions for their underling masses. Fabrication and deceit as well as secrecy IN MASONRY is celebrated, not just upon outsiders, but their own as well.
There are MANY indicators of where Christ was cruciufied, through Ezekiel’s propped up to the East vision, through Judas death location, through Azal and Gematria relating to it, through Toemin and the direction GOD comes from to be seen in Zechariah 9, through the Gematriac and Scriptures on Siloach / Siloam / the Water gate tower and so many others that in 2006 I copyrighted a manuscript and had it placed in the Library of Congress to preserve the MANY details to show Jesus was crucified on the Mount of Olives, north of En Rogel, at the 3rd Olivet peak’s base, having come across from the water gate’s bridge, and within sight of Judas at the southwest corner south of the Dung gate.
If scholarship was just honest about the Greek New Testament and Hebrew Old Testament, locating the Cross in prophecy and in testimony is extremely easy and verified so many times, it should be impossible to get it wrong. Instead, an agenda of unbelief prevails on the minds of the deceived and deceivers in biblical scholarship, which acts as if it holds diplomas as if made of soiled toiletry rather than of respect on this issue.
It’s June 2cd….This article was written june27,2013……
Jesus was born in Judea in 100 BC in the reign of King Jannai and his Queen Salome. Jesus was educated by Joshua ben Perachyah during the Pharisee Revvolt against King Jannai, 88-76 BC. Perachyah and Jesus went into exile in Alexandria Egypt. Jesus was there from 12 years old to 24.
Jesus came back when King Jannai died in 76 BC. Jesus found out that the Pharisees were altering Judaism with Lunar Calendar and “Oral” Torah, and etg.. Jesus became the Teacher of Righteousness of the Dead Sea Scrolls. This is the Jesus in the Talpiot Tomb.
Again “Biblical Scholars” are “Mythical Scholars” in that they believe Mythology over History.
Try researching Jewish Works for the Jewish Jesus, not the New Testament Mythology.
‘http://jewishchristianlit.com/Topics/JewishJesus/.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/talmud.html
I doubt very much that we’d know anything at all about Jesus Christ were it not for the New Testament. What reason would I have for trusting the ‘Jewish Works for the Jewish Jesus’ as being the reliable source of information regarding the Jesus also known as the Christ? Jesus was a common Jewish name. Many different people bore that name.
The glaring bias of using an English/Greek/Anglo name and then say it is a common jewish (Hebrew) name is only caught by accurate historians or those interested in accurate history. It’s not hard to use Yehoshua or Yeshua, but using j, stops the show because j represents none other than the fabulous miracle man/deity.
This article is not interested in science, statistics, or facts. Rather their livelihood depends upon the supernatural and superstitious basis of religion.
I went to the reference you gave and it clearly disagrees with you. Perhaps you could find another (and state clearly why you disagree with the conclusions of your source)?