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By: Colin McDermott

Colin McDermott — Tue, 14 May 2013 20:21:33 +0000

Why does the church still keep the pagan days and pagan calendar? Paganism was crushed long ago. There is no point keeping the pagan days. I have learned that Jesus was probably conceived on Hanukkah (which in Jewish culture, is actually considered your birthday), came out of the womb ( “born” as we understand in our culture) on Sukkot, died on Passover and rose on First Fruits. He was Jewish, and I think that is something most Christians tend to forget. He came for Israel first! (then for everyone else…) Yes, the pagan gods are not real, but we shouldn’t be connected to them in any way (ex mithras, horus etc…) Also, I think if the church did keep the real “Holy Days” instead of “holidays”, there would be more focus on God. All most people care about is santa and presents on christmas and chocolate and the easter egg hunt. Technically, Jesus has nothing to do with santa or with rabbits. I would not call myself Messianic, simply because I am not Jewish. I am simply a Gentile Christian, but I do keep these days according to the Biblical Calendar, (not the Jewish Rabbinic calendar… that’s a whole different story) simply because I think its the right thing to do. Yes because my family has strong ties to the church, I will show up for christmas and easter with everyone else, but they aren’t as big of days for me as they were a few years ago. I guess, you could say I’m a Bible believer, and would rather stick to the Word than the traditions of the church. I don’t think Jesus came to get rid of Judaism, rather He came to get rid of Rabbinicism. He wasn’t trying to make a new religion. “I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.” Fulfill in this sense is misunderstood, because I think we should still be keeping Torah. How could Jesus say I have not come to abolish, but to abolish”? It does not make sense. He then clarifies in the very next verse in Matthew that “until heaven and earth passes away not one yod or one letter will be removed from the Torah”. Well, the way I see it is, the earth is still here. We are still here. Therefore, Torah is still in effect. Jesus came to show us how to live the Torah. Not to get rid of it. He is the living Torah. Why would he get rid of something he worked so hard to create? It is like at the end of Noah’s ark when he says “I will never again destroy the world.” Why would he destroy then, the Covenant (Old Testament)? Jesus wouldn’t even be here if the Covenant didn’t happen in the first place! Also Jesus did say that the 2 greatest commandments are love God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. Well, how do we love God? People say, by loving our neighbor, and that is wrong because Revelation tells us we cannot add or take away from the Word. Jesus did not say love God by loving your neighbor. The “by” is adding to the word. So therefore, how we love God is by keeping his commandments, keeping the Torah. Also, Torah is always misunderstood as “law”. Torah does not mean “law” it means “guidelines and instructions” in Hebrew sense. Sure, we cannot keep all the Torah perfectly, as Jesus was the only one who ever could, but we can at least try our best. The problem with most christians today, is that they don’t read the front of the book (especially the first 5). The Bible does not start with Matthew, it starts with Genesis, Bereshit which means “In the Beginning”. I really do think that the church should “wake up”, and start living by the Word. Also it would bring less division between christians and jews and would ultimately make for a better world. Just my thoughts…

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When the Christians met the Pagans | Bjørn Stærk — Sat, 11 May 2013 11:25:36 +0000

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By: Roger Day

Roger Day — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:22:58 +0000

For the several very good indications in the Bible of when Jesus was born (besides other related topics) see my 99¢ ebook “Christmas Constantine and the Bible” – on google, just type Roger Day Christmas, and you should see the links to it on Amazon and Barnes and Noble.
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By: Joseph Magaro

Joseph Magaro — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:42:36 +0000

The popular belief has more foundation that what is mentioned here. I find it odd that shepherds were in the fields in late December… much too cold to be out and about.

Constantine was a Sun worshiper and his Sun god, Mithras whose symbol was the cross, was supposedly born on December 25th. Around 325 CE when the Nicene council was called by the Roman emperor was also about the time that the date of Jesus’s birth was established by the smaller numbered Christians of the orthodox Roman Church. The Sun god was widely worshiped in the Roman world at this time and it made sense to incorporate things about the sun god into the Christian beliefs.

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